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2005.09.29

[Holy_Fucking_Shit,
What_The _Hell_Is_Going_On?]

Ok, people. This just in from the big giant head:

[09_29_2005]    
bummer. Just spent the day discussing touring up through next summer, then play our asses off to the least responsive audience I can ever remember playing to. I know I'm bitching but it's a shitty feeling.

As I'm walking to the bus to leave Sacramento as soon as I can, I learn Jerome is back in the hospital. I have no idea what this means...

12:37am_PST

What the hell? Firstly, Trent honey, WHY DON'T YOU KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS? Quit writing us yahoos half-baked messages and get on the horn, dude! Am I to suppose that lovely Jerome does not warrant a bedside vigil? Are you working that poor kid too hard? WHAT IS UP, man?

Also, an unresponsive crowd? Did they seem bored? WTF?  Sweetie, you can bitch all you want, but maybe it was an off night? If not, fuck 'em! They didn't deserve you.

But, Sparklepants, these cryptic updates are KILLING ME. Don't you have more than three sentences in you at any given time? This whole tiny little breadcrumbs of thoughts method you have is fucking NUTS. Plus, watch your verb tenses.

You know I love you, baby, but JESUS FUCK.

And, Jerome, honey, what is the matter with you?

I'm worried!

EDIT: Um, everyone does realize that the only reason I'm bitching is that I'm worried, right? Because... Yeah. That's why.

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hmmm... well, blogging is hard to do. He probably just tapped out that latest update on his Blackberry and hit send.

Posted by: Baal Glyttr | Sep 29, 2005 6:30:34 AM

Very sympathetic of you, Baal. Poor Trent.

Geez, Dierdre! He's had a hard day, he's thrown us a bone, and all you can do it bitch? You're no better than Gabriel!

Posted by: Jane | Sep 29, 2005 6:38:49 AM

I love Trent, I know this is freaking him out. Trent will be okay though. He's not the one in the hospital for his heart for the second time in a couple of weeks.

We all need to focus on Jerome right now. Send him some healing vibes or something.

I'm truly worried about him.

:(

Posted by: bex | Sep 29, 2005 6:44:07 AM

Bex, did you not read the part on Jerome's messageboard where he said that he didn't actually have chest pains? To hear him tell it, it isn't a heart problem, actually.

What is probably stumping Dierdre, though, is the part where Trent says Jerome has chest pains, and Jerome says he doesn't. Then, Trent says he just found out, on the way to the bus, that Jerome is back in the hospital, and doesn't know what it means.

Do these boys ever talk? Do they not see each other every day? What's really going on?

These messages leave the distinct impression that something's going on that isn't being made public. What about Trent's "No details" from before? Don't you think Trent knows the details of what made him cut one show off and cancel another? Why not tell them?

Come on! There is no way a control freak like him doesn't have a full picture. He's just not telling.

I'm worried about Jerome, too, but Jesus, Bex, can't you quit being such a pollyanna for five seconds?

Posted by: Jane | Sep 29, 2005 7:05:23 AM

I'm sure there's more going on behind the scenes than we'll ever be privy to, and in many ways it's not our business. I'm sure Trent's in the know, but it's not really his place to broadcast Jerome's medical info.

I'd be broken-hearted if they had to cancel the show in my town, but I'd rather not see Jerome die on stage. He seems like a nice enough guy...I just hope he gets well soon. That's all that really matters.

Posted by: maise | Sep 29, 2005 7:16:08 AM

If Trent played a mini-concert in my living room, I can assure you that some close friends and I would be suitably enthusiastic. It might be a little crowded, and Trent might get derailed by my husband's Playstation 2, and some neighbors might complain about the noise, but at least we wouldn't be apathetic.

Poor Trent...who let all the too-cool-for-school hipsters into the NIN concert?

Posted by: maise | Sep 29, 2005 7:29:04 AM

I hope Jerome will be ok! This is terrible. I don't want to speculate about what's going on in the background, but I agree - it seems that it is potentially quite serious.

As for Trent, I can only imagine how stressed out he must be at this point, with all this crap going on, in addition to the rigors of the touring life. I bet he has mixed feelings about staring down the barrel of so many more months of touring - it's been obvious since late in The Self Destruct tour that it doesn't sit that well with him, and he's recently said that it's not as satisfying for him as it once was.

I know lots of you haven't seen him yet this time around, or at all, and I certainly wouldn't want to deny you the huge pleasure of Trent, Live; but part of me wishes this tour were already over, and Trent were already writing a new record. This chapter is so incredibly beautiful, but part of me wonders about the mileage -- not so much for me, because I love the fuck out of it -- but for Trent, as an artist.

Whatevs. That's just a bunch of speculation. What do I know? I just hope he's well, and that his work is satisfying to him. If he's feeling it, I know we will, too. He has that power.

I'm worried about Jerome, but I know he will be taken care of by professionals who know how to tackle what's ailing him, but I worry about Trent, a bit, too. I just hope he's feeling strong, and all this isn't cracking him too much.

I just added it to my post above, but I hope everyone does know that the only reason I'm bitching is because I'm worried. I just want all to be well.

Posted by: Dierdre | Sep 29, 2005 7:40:39 AM

Jane, I'm normally not going to deal with you (I don't have time for your bullshit), but today, I will tell you to fuck off.

I did get what D. was saying with her post.

Trent has stated in interviews that he's not so close to the band this time around because he doesn't do the same shit as them after shows (drink, party & chase girls), that's why he finds out after the fact when shit happens because he's not hanging with them. As for him not telling us more...it's private.

End of story. Trent will post what can be told when it's known (how Jerome is doing, what will become of the tour, etc.).

Now, as for what I had to say earlier, I just happened to be worried about Jerome. It's been posted before in other places that he has arrhythmia.

I don't know what causes Jerome's arrhythmia, but my husband also has arrhythmia, and also is a percussionist. And I know what kind of exertion drummer’s go through and what it can do to those with any sort of heart condition.

Therefore, I most certainly am not being a god damn mother fucking pollyanna so fuck you. I happen to understand the situation from a slightly different perspective. I don't want to see Romey fall over dead during a show.

Got it?

Posted by: bex | Sep 29, 2005 7:50:22 AM

D., yes, medical professionals will take care of Jerome. My concern is that men tend to be bull headed. And play shit down. As for the last time, when he said just exhaustion, no chest pains, I didn't hear him say he wasn't having irregular heartbeat (which is different than chest pains). If he indeed has arrhythmia, he best be careful. I too don't want to speculate, but if he's got a problem, I hope he will do what they tell him to do, and not push himself at a delicate time.

If he doesn't have arrhythmia as reported, and is just exhaustion, then I'll shut the fuck up and hope the guy gets some rest.

Either way, I hope Jerome is okay, and Trent's nerves are holding up. Trent is in a delicate situation trying to keep himself healthy and we don't want him resorting back to what he used to do to cope.


Posted by: bex | Sep 29, 2005 7:59:26 AM

Firstly, anybody's health is the most important thing, and if they need to cancel shows because of it, and I/we/all of us don't get to see the band this Saturday/down the line/whenever, in the name of protecting somebody's health, I'm all for it.

That said, something VERY BULLSHIT is afoot here.

I understand that Trent doesn't want to party with the boys after the shows for fear of relapse, but how long does it take him from the end of a show to get to the bus? A couple hours? Is he that out of touch with his bandmates -- and not just hired guns like Aaron and Alessandro, but JEROME, who's played with him for YEARS now?? -- that he doesn't even check in with them afterwards?

And using the internet connection to bitch to his fans about being unresponsive at a show?

I know Trent's only human, but if I was one of the people that had justspent between $50-$80 on Sacramento tickets I would give mr. reznor a big old FUCK YOU for posting that kind of thing. He played plenty of shitty shows on fragility, jonesing out of his mind, and his fans took it in stride.

I dunno... Maybe for Trent, nothing's turning out the way he planned... but getting angry at us is going to solve nothing.

Posted by: Gabriel | Sep 29, 2005 8:06:44 AM

Just got a call from my friends I'm going to the show in L.A. with -- apparently Trent is going be on a radio show tomorrow morning there. Any readers live in L.A.? Maybe Trent will mention a bit more about this situation then???

Posted by: Gabriel | Sep 29, 2005 8:11:56 AM

Romey? PUKE. He's not your little 4 year old cousin, Bex, he's a grown man that you do not know.

Did you not read the part where JEROME DILLON HIMSELF said that he did not have chest pains? I think all of us are following the NIN bandwagon closely enough to know that sober Trent isn't partying on with the rest of the wild boys, so thanks for that newsflash, but at the very least, it's pretty clear that there is some kind of communication problem.

I just hope Trent clues us in soon. The suspense is killing me.

And, you are a fucking Pollyanna, Bex. Your percussionist husband's arrythmia has not convinced me otherwise, surprisingly enough.

hugs!
Jane

:)

Posted by: Jane | Sep 29, 2005 8:15:42 AM

Ease off Jane -- no need to take out your TrentStress on Bex.

I know Trent's always been a fucking drama queen, but his petulant tantrum bitching and info-withholding is obnoxious. this may very well be the new "two guys in charge" you'd wanted, D. but at least we got the chaotic fury on stage to go along with the lashing out before.

part of me secretly wonders if he's not blowing this out of proportion to get more attention for what seems to be a flagging tour. this sucks.

Posted by: Gabriel | Sep 29, 2005 8:24:13 AM

OMG--news flash! Trent can be kind of bitchy and has high expectations of his audience! Tell it to Germany.

As for band communication, who knows when Jerome actually went to the hospital...could have been like 10 minutes before Trent got back. Maybe he just happened to have his cell phone off? I'm very close to my friends, but I'm not in constant communication, either. I think it's v. obvious that Trent is very upset and concerned, so imo, it's unnecessary to pick, pick, pick at everything he says.

We're all worried, but Trent has always been terse in writing, and Jerome has a right to privacy, so we just gotta wait and see.

Posted by: maise | Sep 29, 2005 8:34:26 AM

"Did you not read the part where JEROME DILLON HIMSELF said that he did not have chest pains?"

Jane, I never said that Jerome had chest pains. An irregular heartbeat is something different. Obviously, you didn't read my last post carefully.

Gab, I agree with you about Trent being dramatic in reference to the style of his post. And yes, though he's not hanging with the band to protect himself (which I understand), when I read about how he doesn't feel that close to the band, the camaraderie isn't there like the last tour, it bothered me. I'd say the communication disconnect thing that's going on is a symptom of this. It's sad.

Last time Jerome went in the hospital, TR did post pretty quickly once he knew what was going on. I guess all we can do is keep checking nin.com to see what the news is. I was hoping Rob would have made a post on the spiral, but at this point, they are probably giving Jerome his privacy & space. Just hope he's okay.

Posted by: bex | Sep 29, 2005 8:35:18 AM

"part of me secretly wonders if he's not blowing this out of proportion to get more attention for what seems to be a flagging tour. this sucks."

Gabriel, you are the biggest fair-weather fan in existence. Every time you see him in concert, you come home absolutely ecstatic, and then you promptly return to your hyper-critical, bitchy self a few days afterwards.

Posted by: maise | Sep 29, 2005 8:37:50 AM

"As for band communication, who knows when Jerome actually went to the hospital...could have been like 10 minutes before Trent got back. Maybe he just happened to have his cell phone off? I'm very close to my friends, but I'm not in constant communication, either. I think it's v. obvious that Trent is very upset and concerned, so imo, it's unnecessary to pick, pick, pick at everything he says."

Good point Maise.

Posted by: bex | Sep 29, 2005 8:46:24 AM

I mean, seriously. I just love shit like this:

"I know Trent's always been a fucking drama queen, but his petulant tantrum bitching and info-withholding is obnoxious."

When you have *no* idea what's going on behind the scenes, and neither do I or anyone else who's not in their circle.

It reminds me of the pre-WT days when everyone was constantly b*tching about "Where's a new album? Where's a new album?" and then eventually we learn, "Oh yeah, Trent nearly died and had to make some major life changes."

He doesn't have to be plugged into the internet 24/7 to satisfy your curiosity. Maybe Jerome doesn't want everyone in the freaking world to see his EKG readings.

It's probably not good politics for him to diss a city or an audience, but he's stressed out and being honest. Yeah, he's being a total drama queen, but since when is that breaking news, and aren't there more important things to worry about right now?

Posted by: maise | Sep 29, 2005 8:49:57 AM

More good points Maise. You are the voice of reason. I think everyone's a little upset about the situation (on different levels of course), and is making us all a bit edgy.

Posted by: bex | Sep 29, 2005 9:01:08 AM

If Trent truly cared about respecting Jerome's privacy, Maise, he would not have mentioned anything in the first place. Thus far, no shows have been cancelled, so there has been no need to tell the fans anything.

What Trent did do was drop a dangling tidbit of info that has got all of us buzzing, and then providing no further info. By doing this he is fucking with all the fans in Oakland, all the fans in L.A., and to a lesser degree, all the fans who've bought tickets for the rest of this tour. I'm not going to cut him slack on that just because he's Trent Reznor.

And If you read my posts, my primary concern is Jerome's health. My secondary concern is the apparent lack of communication going on within the camp. My third is that Trent does not seem to be having very much fun, and this does not bode well -- on a number of levels.

Posted by: Gabriel | Sep 29, 2005 9:07:18 AM

Very true, Bex. Thanks.

Posted by: Gabriel | Sep 29, 2005 9:11:17 AM

And if Trent had not said anything at all, but cancelled some shows saying, "Jerome has been in the hospital for the past three days," you would be like, "Why couldn't he at least have said that Jerome was in the hospital??? How could he just cancel shows out of the blue? He never tells us anything, bitch, bitch, bitch."

Okay, so maybe we're all freaking out a little bit, and it makes us tense, but I think this is the general train of thought for most people:

1) OMG, what's going on! I hope Jerome's okay...
2) I hope they won't have to cancel my show, but I'll understand if they do. Get well soon, Jerome!
3) What's going on now? nin.com refresh.
4) nin.com refresh, refresh, refresh.

I don't see why you have to add "And this is why Trent sucks" to the mix.

Posted by: maise | Sep 29, 2005 9:31:14 AM

Gabriel, get ahold of yourself.

Maise is right: Trent has always been a bit terse, dramatic, and somewhat bitchy. His flair for drama is among those excellent qualities that have made him so lovable for years, and his bitchiness has always been entertainingly ill-advised and honest. Don't start hating him for it now.

Still: granted, I'm not Jerome, and he certainly has a right to all of his privacy, but if I were Jerome, I wouldn't mind if someone said "Jerome had an episode of arrythmia."

No one needs to be looking at his EKG, and if it is just something Jerome can't help, like a congenital heart problem, don't you think it gives it a slightly different flavor that there's so much conspicuously mixed or withheld information?

I'm posing that question just to play devil's advocate, and NOT because I am jumping to any unsavory conclusions. I can't help thinking that if it were something fairly innocuous, like arrythmia, it wouldn't be a "no details," and "no idea what this means" kind of situation.

Maybe Maise is right that it's just a sign of how upset Trent was that he fired off an update like that; in which case, it's nice that he is communicating so directly -- and actually, that is probably exactly what's going on. I still want more information, though, and it worries me that things are going shitty, and hope Trent is ok, because that is just a weird update.

Hopefully we'll hear, later today or tomorrow, that Jerome is well, and all will be well. I hope so.

Posted by: Dierdre | Sep 29, 2005 9:36:35 AM

There goes the neighborhood.

I think we should all just get back to today's INTERESTING news: Jerome is in the hospital and Dierdre has a point: Trent is posting wierd updates.

I think it's telling that Meathead's update trumps Jerome's hospitalization at the top of the nin hotline.

Gotta take care of your own, man.

Posted by: Jane | Sep 29, 2005 11:10:05 AM

D, his updates are a little weird, but then again I think Trent is an odd guy. When I have a lot on my mind, I'm not very articulate and I forget to say some things when I'm updating my blog or whatnot. So chances are, he did the same thing, and only wrote down the gist of what's going on. It's nice that he did even that, and hopefully he'll go into more detail later.

Posted by: Kim | Sep 29, 2005 11:14:35 AM

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